Jul 22, 2010, 12:39 AM // 00:39
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jul 2010
Profession: A/
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Mesmer's overpowered?
Does anyone else think that the Mesmer class is completely overpowered?
Im playing random arena and i get into a game and there is a mesmer on the other team that just keeps putting empathy on me and backfire on the monk. All of our damage goes down the drain since the other assassin was busy getting knocked down by a warrior/ele combo, and idk what the other guy was doing. Empathy can be on a person for 13 seconds while it has a 10 second cooldown, its not even fair cause it completely shuts down melee classes, and then healers cant even heal unless they feel like getting killed by backfire. how is this fair at all?
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Jul 22, 2010, 12:42 AM // 00:42
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Tea Powered
Join Date: May 2008
Location: UK
Profession: N/
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Jul 22, 2010, 01:57 AM // 01:57
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#3
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Feb 2007
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cellamaret
Does anyone else think that the Mesmer class is completely overpowered?
Im playing random arena and i get into a game and there is a mesmer on the other team that just keeps putting empathy on me and backfire on the monk. All of our damage goes down the drain since the other assassin was busy getting knocked down by a warrior/ele combo, and idk what the other guy was doing. Empathy can be on a person for 13 seconds while it has a 10 second cooldown, its not even fair cause it completely shuts down melee classes, and then healers cant even heal unless they feel like getting killed by backfire. how is this fair at all?
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not even the reason mesmers are over powered... mind wrack + e-surgeand e-burn buffs....
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Jul 22, 2010, 02:00 AM // 02:00
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jun 2009
Profession: A/D
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When theres no hex removal, mesmers are like h4X. They even get blamed sometimes for hacking becuase they have a skills that temporarily steals an elite from a foe.
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Jul 22, 2010, 02:13 AM // 02:13
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#5
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Oct 2005
Guild: Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*
Profession: W/E
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In Ra you should really bring some sort of condition/hex removal because you have no idea if you are going to have a monk on the team(one who isnt terrible).
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Jul 22, 2010, 02:18 AM // 02:18
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#6
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2009
Profession: R/
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Mesmers are only OP in RA.
And they're not OP if you have a good ranger, a good mesmer, a good warrior, or a good monk. Also, they're squishy; kill them.
Last edited by Ugh; Jul 22, 2010 at 02:21 AM // 02:21..
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Jul 22, 2010, 02:36 AM // 02:36
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#7
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: IGN: X Ghoul
Guild: Mega M O R P H I N Power Ranger [pR]
Profession: Rt/W
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cellamaret
Does anyone else think that the Mesmer class is completely overpowered?
Im playing random arena and i get into a game and there is a mesmer on the other team that just keeps putting empathy on me and backfire on the monk.
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This made me laugh
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Jul 22, 2010, 02:37 AM // 02:37
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#8
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Ascalonian Squire
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empathy and backfire? Sry but those skills have existed in GW ever since GW was created and they never really been "overpowered" because they fit the role of a Mesmer. Total shut down, that is actually the point of the Mesmer. They are suppose to totally shut you down. You have to be cleaver enough to bring hex removal. TBH backfire is probably least dangerous to a monk, it's the other casters that have to worry about backfire. Unless the monk is a noob, they will ALWAYS have some form of hex removal for such skill. All it takes is one hex removal, then heal away. I agree with you that empathy can be totally unfair to melee characters, especially warriors. But again, shut down is a part of what the Mesmer is, it is you who has to be cleave and beat it.
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Jul 22, 2010, 02:44 AM // 02:44
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#9
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Farming for Nick gifts
Profession: R/
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Rolin's hex counter tutorial!
1. Backfire: stop casting spells
2. Empathy: stop attacking
3. both hexes can easily be dispatched with a hex removal, and if you're smart enough to do so, forget parts 1 and 2
Class dismissed!
Last edited by RedDog91; Jul 22, 2010 at 02:55 AM // 02:55..
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Jul 22, 2010, 02:44 AM // 02:44
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#10
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Mar 2010
Guild: Double Stuffed Cookies
Profession: Me/
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mesmers are far from overpowered but i will say that they can do some serious stuff to any unprepared team which is very simply what happened to you, if your going to do RA make sure you go in prepared to counter anything such as hexes, if your team had any hex removal it wouldve been that simple so dont QQ
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Jul 22, 2010, 03:16 AM // 03:16
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Look out!
Profession: E/
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When I play as monk I have 2 hex removal skills on my bar. There's no excuse for going into RA without hex removal.
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Jul 22, 2010, 03:20 AM // 03:20
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#12
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Georgia
Guild: Legendary Guardians of Olympus [ZEUS]
Profession: D/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by X Ghoul
This made me laugh
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I lol'd as well.
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Jul 22, 2010, 04:28 AM // 04:28
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#13
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Nov 2005
Profession: E/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedDog91
Rolin's hex counter tutorial!
1. Backfire: stop casting spells
2. Empathy: stop attacking
3. both hexes can easily be dispatched with a hex removal, and if you're smart enough to do so, forget parts 1 and 2
Class dismissed!
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the problem is that in RA whether you win or lose mostly boils down to whether you have a monk. if both teams have monks, then it depends on which team's monk dies first. if your casters are not casting and your physicals are not attacking, the enemy monk is not going down. domination spells are already strong, pair them up with the esurge bs and it makes them overpowered.
Last edited by StormX; Jul 22, 2010 at 04:31 AM // 04:31..
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Jul 22, 2010, 05:05 AM // 05:05
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#14
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jan 2010
Profession: N/A
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Esurge is gay, its easy to run but still not as good as a well placed pblock or diversion. Mesmers can seem a bit op if you face a good one but you can say the same for other professions. If you get one of those hexes on you be sure to ping it if you got a monk on your team, if not bring your own hex removal.
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Jul 22, 2010, 05:29 AM // 05:29
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Jul 2010
Profession: W/N
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I remember MOBs having a hard time when I casted empathy on them. A human player will just stop attacking for a few seconds and wait/call for hex removal.
Backfire isn't much of a trouble for a monk.
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Jul 22, 2010, 06:18 AM // 06:18
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Banned
Join Date: Oct 2007
Guild: N/A
Profession: D/W
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I never get worried about empathy being on me as a hammer warrior because I can still kill fast even with it on me. I figure: if we have a monk, he'll take it off me if he knows what's good for winning. Otherwise, we're gonna die anyway, so why not speed up that process? Ofc, I do wait some of that hex time out, and only chuck a spear when enraged charge is on so I can land Dev Hammer.
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Jul 22, 2010, 06:49 AM // 06:49
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#17
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: +2 GMT
Guild: WTB Q9 20/20 Bo Staves
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ugh
Mesmers are only OP in RA.
Also, they're squishy; kill them.
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This is what you need to do.
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Jul 22, 2010, 07:34 AM // 07:34
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#18
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sweden
Profession: A/E
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your right, mesmers should be removed from pvp in guild wars
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Jul 22, 2010, 08:02 AM // 08:02
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#19
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
Guild: We Gat Dis [HRUU]
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rampage365
empathy and backfire?You have to be cleaver enough to bring hex removal.
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Oh the irony
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Jul 22, 2010, 08:04 AM // 08:04
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#20
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Why do you want to know where I live? Pervert.....
Guild: [TRL]
Profession: Me/A
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Combine that, with a necro that puts soulbind with cover hex parasitebond on all 4 enemies.... Imo necros are overpowered, IP shuts down melee, SB on each char shuts down the monk..
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